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denote the steam from a newly-made haystack. He STATEMENT CONCERNING EARLY a Kentish man.

THORNFIELD. “The early Christians were accustomed to bid

their dying friends ‘Good night,' so sure were they

of their awakening on the Resurrection morning.' Queries.

What authority is there for this statement? We must request correspondents desiring information

G. H. T. on family matters of only private interest, to affix their names and addresses to their queries, in order that the NOTAINGARIAN.-I should be glad if MR. W. answers may be addressed to them direct.

ROBERTS or any other correspondent could give a

quotation for this expressive epithet, which I came CAARGER.—Can this word, in sense of horse used to know in Scotland and am inclined to believe to in a charge, or ridden by an officer, be found before be a Scotticism. I am not sure whether it is as old Campbell's Battle of Hohenlinden,' December, as the Ochtertyre Papers.'

NOMAD. 1800? It is frequent in Scott, Byron, and other poets soon after ; but it was unknown to Dr. Johnson

LORD ARCHIBALD HAMILTON died on Sept. 4, and to all the editions of Phillips, Kersey, Bailey 1827, in the Upper Mall, Hammersmith. I wish (1721-1800), to Asb, &c. Todd, 'who added the to know where he was buried, and, if possible, to word to Johnson in 1818, cites Kersey for it, but obtain a copy of the inscription on his tomb. Can apparently through some mistake. Was it an army any readers of ' N. & Q.’ kindly help me? term picked up by Campbell, or did he originate

G. F. R. B. the use ?

J. A. H. MURRAY. WILLIAM CARTWRIGHT.-In "The Playhouse The Scriptorium, Oxford.

Pocket Companion, or Theatrical Vademecum, CHARTIST.-I shall be glad of information as to &c., London, Printed and sold by Richardson & the first use of chartist and chartism, and early J. Wenman, No. 144, Fleet Street; and J.

Urquhart, under the Royal Exchange, Cornhill ; quotations for both words. They are said to occur in the Annual Register of 1838. Will some one

Southern, in St. James's Street," 12mo., 1779 send me them? Is it known, who invented the the Stage”), it is said on the back of the dedication

(for rest of title see Mr. Lowe's 'Bibliography of terms, and were they originally assumed by the

to advocates of the People's Charter, or bestowed by the Plays and Poems of William Cartwright'

“The Pit,” which follows the title-page, that others upon them? I find that charterism was an suppose that charterist may as naturally have been the author of the Critical History of the English early (and patural) synonym of chartism, and I are printing by subscription in two neat pocket

volumes, price seven shillings, with notes, &c., by first used for chartist, but I have no example. Stage' prefixed to the work. Facts bearing on the matter will be gladly received. of this edition or of its editor ?

Is anything known

URBAN. J. A. H. MURRAY, The Scriptorium, Oxford.

OLD ROLE FOR LATIN VERSES.—I remember SAMUEL FOOTE is said in the “Life” by John Bee my father dictating to me the following couplet, prefixed to his 'Works,' in 3 vols., 1830, to have been containing a rule for making Latin verses, and the son of Samuel and Ellen Foote, of Truro, and adding that they were current in his day at the to have been born in a house long known as John- Charterhouse School, towards the end of the last son Vivian's. Cooke, his biographer, says the century : father's name was John, and is followed by the Carmina non bona sunt, sine " nunc," sino“ tunc," sine Biographia Dramatica, Chalmers's 'Biographical “quando," Dictionary,' &c. As the father was Commissioner

“Quandoquidem," "quoniam," "quippe quod," atque of the Prize Office and Fine Contract, &c., this con

* quia," tradiction is capable of being settled. 'Is John- Have these lines ever been in print before, and are son Vivian's still known in Truro ?


they to be found in any mediæval grammarian ;

or are they part and parcel of unwritten and tradiROBERT DUNBART.--I should be glad to have tional Carthusian school “lore”? any information about this engraver. His name

E, WALFORD, M.A. does not appear in Redgrave. He appears to have

7, Hyde Park Mansions, N.W. engraved the portrait of Jonas Hanway by Edward Edwards which hangs in the committee-room of

STROUD AS A PLACE-NAME.—Chatterton, that the Marine Society.

G. F. R. B.

wonderfully aborted genius, describes very shortly

his journey to town. He rode partly in the basket, BREMBELSHET OR BREMSCHAT Family.—Where partly inside, and partly as outside passenger. can I find some details of the descent of this family, He appears to have left Bristol by the lower road, who were lords of the manor of Bramshott, Hants through Brislington, Bath, Marlborough. He

E. H. W. DUNKIN. breakfasted at Speenhamland, a suburb of NewKidbrooke Park, Blackheath.

bury, and dined at Stroud, reaching London at


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5 P.M. Of course this is not Stroud in Gloucester- centenary at Plymouth that really it dated its sbire. There is, however, a Stroud Green two origin from the train bands of the time of William miles west of Staines, so he probably came through Rufus, and so was nearly eight hundred years old ; Reading, over Loddon Bridge, through Bracknell, but even taking the date of the charter of Henry across Ascot Heath, along Sunning Hill, and by VIII. this would give it a greater antiquity than Virginia Gate. Was this Stroud Green known as any European regiment.

Al the feudal armies of a coaching place of old ?

the Continent have been dissolved long ago, and, if I have traced the old Roman road to Silchester, I mistake not, from revolutions or mutinies most called the Portway, in this locality, and propose to of those of the Armada period. The place where connect the name Stroud etymologically with street one might find rivals to the Honourable Artillery as a common form of the Welsh ystrad. Cf. also Company would be, I should suggest, in Persia or strid for stride as a water passage ; and see the China; but I do not know if there are there any very mutation of Strat-ford into Stort-ford, whence the ancient corps. The idea of the Honourable Artillery river Stort, and Stroud Water, the river Frome, corps is one not uncommon in medieval cities, but as secondary applications. We have also Strood stamped out in modern times. The question of at the old water passage from Rochester, Kent. “Which is the oldest military corps in the world ?"

A. HALL. is very interesting. W. S. LACH-SZYRMA. 13, Paternoster Row, E.C.

Newlyn. “TIB AND Tom."— A propos of the recent dis- BAY BERRIES.-To what use did the ancients cussion concerning tom-cat, will some one kindly devote the fruit of the sweet bay, Laurus nobilis, tell me to what Randolph alludes in these lines in L., the Lauri baccas of Virgils I do not find his 'Hermaphrodite' ('Works,' ed. 1875, p. 640) ? - anything said of them in our cookery books, That gamester needs must overcome

but presume they were eaten as a condiment. In That can play both Tib and Tom.

this part of England the plant rises to thirty or The poem was first printed in 1653. C. C. B. forty feet in height, and often bears abundantly. [In the game of Gleek, Tib is the ace of trumps and

R. C. A. P. Tom the knave.]


“FORME” OR “ FORM.”—Type arranged in order Harcourt's first wife styled “Rebecca, Lady Astry,"locked up” (held together) in a " chase” (iron

* forme." Americans drop in Doyle’s ‘Official Baronage,' vol. ii. p. 113? She frame) is known as a was the daughter of the Rev. Thomas Clark, his the final e. Which spelling is the more correct ? father's chaplain, and the marriage, which was

ANDREW W. TUER. clandestine, took place about 1677.

The Leadenhall Press, E.C. buried at Chipping Norton May 16, 1687.

[The e, we believe, is a modern excrescence. Form is G. F. R. B.

to be found in Bailey, 1763, in Savage's 'Dictionary of

Printing,' and in Annandale's 'Ogilvie,' where forme is HERALDIC. - Will

any of your

readers kindly given as an alternative.] assist me in tracing the following coat of arms, on Magna CHARTA.— I have in my possession an a piece of plate engraved apparently about one illuminated (by band) folio copy of the above, hundred years ago ? The plate came out of Nor-printed in gold on vellam, dato 1814–15. I am folk, and might belong to the Hase family or their told that the cost of producing one copy was 105.., connexions. Field, Ermine ; between three mart and there are only two others, one of which is in lets proper a chevron gules charged with three the British Museum. Can any of your readers crosses fleuris (a lozenge).

W. J.

help me to find out where the third is? CHAPLAININTHE PENINSULAR ARMY.-A grand

EDWARD BADDELEY. uncle of mine was a chaplain in the army of

FRENCH REFUGEES IN HAMBURG, 1789–1815. Wellington in Spain at the beginning of this - Where can I see a German account of French century. He caught fover in attending the sick nobility who resided in Hamburg during the soldiers, and died at Badajoz or Ciudad Rodrigo. revolutionary period, with full particulars as to In what books or newspapers should I be likely to their titles and military rank ? Also information refind any mention of the circumstance ? He was quired whether they became citizens thereof, with 80 highly esteemed that a monument was erected to names of residence, &c.

B. T. his memory in Spain. J. W. HARDMAN, LL.D.

REYNOLDS AND MORLAND. - Where can I find

the record that Sir Joshua Reynolds painted the Which is THE OLDEST MILITARY CORPS IN THE portrait of George Morland when a youth? I WORLD?–Is not the Honourable Artillery Com-possess a fine Sir Joshua-like head, said to be George pany of London the oldest corps now existing in Morland, dressed in brown coat and a shirt frilled the world ? It was stated at the Armada Ter- after the fashion of the period ; and having read

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that Sir Joshua had offended the youth by paint

Replies. ing him in a lace collar, I ventured at last to test it with spirits of wine, which revealed a lace collar

HUNTING HORNS. under the brown coat painted on a blue-black velvet. I therefore hope that one of

(6th S. x. 383, 504; xi. 113; xii. 72, 230, 496; your readers

7th S. vi. 151.) will now enable me to read it again.


The Ripon horn has, I think, nothing to do

with hunting. Thomas Gent, in his ‘History of THE STUART PAPERS, Is anything further Rippon,' 1733, tells us as follows: known of the important letter of Lord Oxford in

"It was indeed the Custom of the Vigillarius, or September, 1716, to the Pretender referred to in Wakeman, to order, That a Horn should be blown every the Edinburgh Review, vol. lxii. pp. 18-19, but Night, at Nine of the Clock: And if any House, or Shop, which Lord Mahon failed to find when writing his was broke open and robb’d, after that Blowing of the History of England' (second edition, vol. i. Horn, ?till the Rising of the Sun; why then, the Logg

was obliged to be made good to the suffering Inhabitant. App. p. iii) ?

G. F. R. B.

For this Obligation, or Insurance, every Housholder

used to pay Four Pence a Year; but if there was a BackARMADA LITERATURE. — Which are the chief door to another Street, from whence double Danger contemporary Spanish works describing the expedi- might be suppos’d, then it was to be Eight Pence. That tion of the Spanish Armada of 1588, or the pre- still they

persevere to blow the Horn, at the said Hour

Tax (a kind of Police-rate] is since discontinu'd: But parations for it ? W. S. LACH SZYRMA.

of the Night; three Times at the Mayor's Door, and “ TAE DERBYSHIRE HUDIBRAS.”—I should be

thrice at the Market-Cross." very grateful for any information regarding George

It was this "perseverance” which mystified Eyre, the Derbyshire Hudibras, beyond the short

CUTHBERT BEDE, The market-cross, or obelisk, notice in the Appendix to Glover's Derbyshire.' 82 ft. high, is, or was, “surmounted” not only When and why did Eyre first get this sobriquet; by a horn," but also by “a Star and Flower-deand who gave it him? ALSAGER VIAN.

Luce": the "spindle" on which they are dis

played is six feet long. The whole obelisk cost JEWS IN IRELAND.-In Shirley's letters of the 5641. 11s. 9d., and was erected in 1702, John reign of Henry III. (ii. 519) it is stated that Peter Aislabie being mayor. de Rivallio was charged with the custody “Juda- "A Bugle-Horn, Belted Sable, and deem'd to ismi nostri Hiberniæ," and that all the Jews of be embellish'd Argent, are [sic] now the Arms of Ireland were to be amenable to his jurisdiction. I Rippon," wrote old Thomas Gent. Whence, therehave devoted a large amount of attention to the fore, come the "Star and Flower-de-luce”? Is early history of the Jews, but cannot find the there any foundation for the supposition, which I slightest reference to Irish Jews. I shall be have heard put forward, that the star bas reference thankful for any details respecting them.

to the spurriers' trade ? JULIAN MARSHALL. M. D. Davis.

In Charleton's 'Newcastle Town,' p. 161, the Religious ANOINTING.—What was the primi- “ White Hart Inn” is mentioned as being the tive idea underlying the practice, common to so fashionable tavern of the towo, temp. 1751:many religions, of anointing sacred things and

The gentlemen of the Newcastle Hunt, on the first: persons with oil, ghee, chrism, or other unctuous day of the season, met at Debord's with great parade, matter?

A. SMYTHE PALMER. and with French horns, and much music and smacking Woodford.

of whips."

In all likelihood this would continue until the Scotch Hall-This hall was in Farringdon end of the last or into the early part of the present Ward Within. I find no mention of it in Cunning. century. In one of the illustrations to Somerham, Timbs, nor Cassell's 'Old London.' Where ville's Chase' there is the bell of a French horn can I learn anything about it? C. A. WARD.

seen below the right arm, at the back of the huntsWalthamstow,

man ; and in the museum at Kelso there are two, AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. —

measuring 164 in. in diameter outside, 144 in. O life, without thy chequer'd scene

inside, and 94 in. across the bell. There is no inOf right and wrong, of weal and woe,

formation as to where they came from. However, Success and failure, could a ground

Bewick, who was so accurate an observer of everyFor magnanimity be found?

thing connected with rural life, would hardly have "Willing to serve God so that they did not offend the introduced anything not in actual use. devil,”

G. H. T. As to when straight horns were substituted for A woman is only the age she looks," Mac, curly ones, is it not probable that both were used ? Fortune a goddess is to fools alone,

In a copy of an old view of Alnwick Castle, proThe wise are always masters of their own. bably the early part of the last century, there is

GEO. C. PRATT. a fox-hunt going on in the foreground, the fox

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and dogs followed by three huntsmen, and one "At Alexandria was invented the most elegant and man, on foot, blowing a straight horn. In fact, durable representative of value ever devised, the glass horns of all shapes, straight, curved, and curly, money issued by the Fatimite Sultans, dating from the

tenth century.

It consists of thick disks of green seem to have been used. G. H. THOMPSON.

glass, bearing a legend in letters raised in characters Alnwick.

of red enamel."-King's · Natural History of Precious

Stones,' p. 362. From the mention of prints of the old-fashioned

H. J. MOULE. French hunting-horn, it would almost seem that

Dorchester. the recent, if not present, use of the thing itself is forgotten by the writer. When I abode at St. Prof. Church, in his 'Carthage ; or, the Empire Germain en Laye, in 1857-8, these horns were of Africa,' says :always worn by the chasseurs, and, I think, the

“ While we are writing of trade we must not omit to piqueurs of the Emperor's most picturesque, if mention a curious statement about what has been cockneyisb, hunt. I once saw the “breaking Called the leather money' of Carthage. _The work up" of the stag—an extraordinary scene. Four from which it comes bears the name of Æschines, a chasseurs stood in front of the hounds and blew a disciple of Socrates. It is certainly not of his time,

but it is probably ancient, • The Carthaginians,' says long primæval-sounding blast, called " la note de this author, whoever he may have been, 'make use of Dagobert,” if I remember rightly. At a particular the following kind of money : in a small piece of turn of the blast the hounds rushed forward to leather a substance is wrapped of the size of a piece devour their perquisite. H. J. MOULE. of four drachmæ (about 38.); but what this substance Dorchester.

is no one knows except the maker. After this it is

sealed and issued for circulation; and he who posLEATHER COINS (7th S. vi. 64). — There is a

sesses the most of this is regarded as having the most

But if any

money, and as being the wealthiest man. characteristic passage in Jean Paul on this subject, one among us had ever so much, he would þe no richer It occurs in the 'Flower, Fruit, and Thorn Pieces,' than if he possessed a quantity of pebbles. This un. and is thus translated by Noel (Tauchnitz edition, known substance was probably an alloy of metal, of vol. i. p. 258) :

which the ingredients were a State secret; and the seal To lend anything to a man of a delicate sense of

was a State mark. We have, in fact, here a kind of

clumsy bank-note." honour, a courtier for instance, is always more or less

JOHN CHURCHILL SIKES. offensive to his feelings; wherefore the man of delicate sensibility seeks to pardon the insult by dismissing the 50, Agate Road, The Grove, Hammersmith, W, whole affair from his memory......Rude young equires, on the contrary, and officers on the march, really pay out

We find in St. Jerome ('Opera,' viii. 426, ed. right, and, as in Algiers, where every one possesses the Vallarsey) that Numa congiarium dedit asses right of coining, they stamp their own species of money ligneos et scorteos." P. J. F. GANTILLON. for paying their debts. In Malta a leathern coin of the value of eightpence is current, on which is stamped this motto, 'non *sed fides.' With a similar Muscovy

CASTOR: GO-CART (7th S. iv. 507; V. 54, leather coin, though not round, but drawn out in length, 294, 493; vi. 93).—The go-cart is among my like the money of Sparta, and therefore more usually earliest recollections. The one in my mother's occurring under the name of horse-whips and dog-whips, nursery was a hollow truncated cone of basketthe landed proprietors and village nobility pay their work, which was made to run upon castors. coachmen, Jews, carpenters, and all their other creditors The little prisoner who was popped into it, op until they are satisfied.”

C. C. B. rather over whom it was popped, and whose un. In 'Manx Currency,' by C. Clay, M.D., vol.

aided limbs were too weak to support his body, xvii. of the publications of the Manx Society, put under his armpits, while his feet just touched

was upheld by the upper circle of the cone being pp. 23–26, is some account of leather coinage. Dr. the floor. The go-cart was thus a kind of self-acting Olay quotes from Maundeville's Voiage' (London, crutch. The greater width of the lower circle always 1737), p. 287, " This Emperour (of Tartary) kept the centre of gravity safely within the base, and makethe no money but of lether emprented, or it acted at the same time as a fender. Both upsets

He also refers to Archeologia, and harmful collisions were thus guarded against. vol . xiii. pp. 187, 188 ; 'N. & Q.;' 2nd S. vi. Go-carts, I believe, were doomed by the doctors

, 460; and to a subsequent note signed Acee who objected to children being prematurely forced (whó quotes Camden's · Britain, 1629, p. 165); into the second stage of human life described in Norfolk Archæology,' 1849, vol. ii. p. 305; but the riddle of the Sphinx. They may be right, but the quotations are too long to give. Dr. Clay's I am sure none of us ever got any harm from their conclusion is “ that leather money was frequently use. In the 'Euvres complètes de Michel-Ange, resorted to in England.” ERNEST B. SAVAGE, F.S.A.

published by Didot, Paris, 1863, there is a plate St. Thomas, Douglas, Isle of Man,

(No. 78) in which the artist has depicted himself

in a go-cart, in the second childhood of extreme Leather is not the only non-metallic material old age.

R. M. SPENCE, M.A. for money, as appears from what follows:

Manse of Arbuthnott N.B.



of papyre."

R. R. may be glad to know that go-carts appear

LOKE (766 S. vi. 128).This is a common Norfolk to be coming into vogue again. I saw one recently word for an enclosed lane or place in country or city. exposed for sale in a shop at Colwyn Bay, and See Marshall's “Rural Economy of Norfolk,"2 vole. the children of the house in which I was lodging 8vo. 1787, where, in its place in the glossary had another similar one. These were much smaller (vol. ii. pp, 373–392), is “Loke, sb., a close narrow and more elegant than the one I used to know as lane"; and see Spurden's vol. iii. of Forby's "The a child some forty years ago, since which time Vocabulary of East Anglia,' Norwich, 1858, "Loke, I do not remember to have seen anything of the s., a cul-de-sac, generally a private green road leading kind.

C. C. B.

to fielden.” The word is, it seems, pronounced with

a long o, riming to stroke, but it is simply =lock, R. R. describes with great accuracy a child's a locked or enclosed place, from the old verb lúcan, go-cart, observing that fifty or sixty years ago he to lock, and closely connected with the later verb often used to see it, but "it appears to be quite loken, to lock. Compare Cadmon, ii. 302, p. 176, unknown to the present generation.” It may in Bouterwek,“lucan mid listum locen waldendes”; possibly interest R. R., or others who are curious "to lock with deceits the loke (enclosure) of the in noting the change of manners and customs, to Almighty," i. e, heaven. One might, I suppose, know that such machines as he describes with compare Beowulf's bán-lócan, the bone-case, or perfect accuracy may be seen at the present day, flesh or body, with a slightly varied sense. and any day-in any village street or country

0. W. TANCOCK. town in Italy-perhaps hardly now in the larger

Norwich. cities.

T. A. T.

Forby has "Loke, s., a short narrow turn-again Budleigh Salterton.

lane. A.-S. loc, clausula (a closing up).” The In continuation of the remarks upon castors,

word is in every-day use in Norfolk. My house we used and always spoke of a cruet stand on small is bounded on the north by a lokeway leading rollers as the castors" when I was young. We

from to

HIC ET UBIQUE. also have a mahogany cheese waggod, divided down

The following is from Nall's 'Dialect of East the middle, and with brass castors, which could be Anglia,' under the above word :pushed about the table or floor. I have seen these in use in Wiltshire farmhouses and inns quite road closed with gates, or through which there is no

“A blind alley, shaded lane, narrow pass, a private recently, also a smaller undivided one for bread. thoroughfaro. Loke, past part. of locked. Also a door They were frequently used at the market dinners hatch.A.-8. locen, an enclosure, boundary; Isl. loka, in the hotels, as being easily passed round for the to shut. Lofk, a dingle which is not very steep, a hollow. 7 guests to help themselves. A. L. CLARK. Lagger, a broad green lane not used as a road. Heref. Bedford Park,

dial. Sussex, a green or wooded bank."

ALGERNON GISSING. ROYAL ARMS IN CHURCHES (7th S. vi. 89).- Broadway, Worcestershire. This was the subject of a query by E. M. in 1st S. [MR. JULIUS STEGGALL refers to Halliwell, and MR. v. 559, which was followed by replies in vi. 62, G. "H. THOMPSON to Halliwell and to Jamieson, adding 88, 108, 178, 227, 517; ix. 327. The same query that in Northumberland the word has the meaning of a was asked by M. D. in 46 S. xii. 287. In reply,

small quantity.] p. 354, E. H. DUNKIN sent a copy of a licence of Abp. Abbot, then first appearing in print,

enjoining there was published by Ward & Co., Paternoster

RELIGIOUS ANECDOTES (7th S. vi. 87).-In 1850 that, inter alia, churches ought to be adorned and beautified especially with his Majesty's arms,

Row, an octavo volume entitled the Cyclopædia Oct. 24, 1631. Atop. 437 there was a reply from of Moral and Religious Anecdotes: a Collection of myself, giving most of the available information nearly Three Thousand Facts, Incidents, Narraother than in the previous replies, and showing tives, Examples, and Testimonies, &c., by the Rev. from Burnet's Hist. of the Reform.' that the tion being edited by the Rev. John Flesher, of

K. Arvine, A.M., of New York ; the English edi. earliest known instance of the setting up of the London. The book begins with anecdotes of " Abroyal_arms (not such as occur in glass, noticed by stinence" and ends with some of “Zeal in doing MR. ELLACOMBE at vi. 62 supr.) was in February,


J. F. MANSERGA, 1547, the month after the death of Henry VIII.

Liverpool. There is, I think, no absolute authority to be brought for them ; but the parish register of War

“ CHANTE PLEURES (7th S. vi. 127).—When rington, July 30, 1660, mentions an injunction of DR. MURRAY is at a loss, there is small encouragethe Great Counsell of England” for their being ment for " fools" to "rush in." He, of course, set up in all churches, of which I have never seen knows how Cotgrave translates the word; the verification (see p. 437). Ed. MARSHALL.

garden Pot, or Gardners watering Pot," &c. The [Other correspondents write to the same effect.] difficulty is that, in nearly all the

senses given by



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