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Lat., cibaglia, Ital., is food or victuals in general. Hall probably means that Maro made these paups, or miserable portions of coarse meal, both his meat and drink."

Now, after this display of etymological science, it may surprise us to learn that it is all a mistake; for that Maro is Virgil, and Hall's allusion is to the poem ascribed to him, called Moretum, in which the characters are-Simulus, a small farmer, and Cybale, his negress-slave; and the paups (i. e. pap, or porridge, as we may term it; Hall, by-the-way, quoted from memory,) is the aforesaid Moretum. We should then read:

"That Maro makes his Simule and Cybeale." Makes is makes for: as a tailor says, "I made Mr. X. a coat," &c.

A rightly punctuated edition of Hall's Satires is a desideratum: for Singer's edition is excessively incorrect in this respect.

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THOS. KEIGHTLEY. ARMY LIST. There is, in the Scots' Magazine for 1745, a list of the succession of Colonels in all the regiments of the British army, from the first raising of the same to the date of publication. As I should not know where else to look for precisely the same information, the exact title is worth making a note of:

"The Succession of Colonels in all Regiments, &c., in his Majesty's Service from their Rise; with the Dates of Promotions, Precedency of each Regiment, their Lieutenant-Colonels and Majors, and Stations at the End of the Year 1744."

GRIME.

THOMAS PEARNE: GREGORY BLUNT, ESQ. Six more Letters to Granville Sharp, Esq., on his Remarks upon the Uses of the Article in the Greek Testament, by Gregory Blunt, Esq., London, 8vo., 1803, have been attributed to Porson. Mr. Wat son (Life of Porson, p. 269.) states, that one of Dr. Disney's daughters has been heard to express her belief that they were written by an intimate friend of her father's, Mr. Thomas Pearne, Fellow and Tutor of St. Peter's College, Cambridge, a Unitarian, and good classical scholar. Thomas Pearne, B.A. (14th wrangler), 1777; M.A. 1780; died in College 29th November, 1827, aged seventyfour; and was buried at Little St. Mary's, Cambridge, 4th Dec. following. We do not think he was ever Tutor of the College.

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BEARING ROYAL ARMS. - Are all persons of royal descent entitled to bear royal arms? If so, in what manner? And would a person descended from a younger child of Edward I. do well to take the royal arms as they were in that king's time, or as they are now? T. E. S.

"BRANDED LIKE A COWARD."-What gave rise to this expression? And what writer of note, if any, uses it? NEMO.

FAMILY OF BRODIE OF BRODIE.—I am engaged in collecting materials for a History and Pedigree of the Scotch family of Brodie. I have made use of Burke's Landed Gentry, and Shaw's History of Moray, together with numerous private documents, but the pedigree is still far from complete. Could any of the readers of "N. & Q." put me in the way of reaching any other sources of information P G. F. C. CAMBERWELL. I have seen an old proverb in a triplet, which runs thus:

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"All the maides in Camberwell,

May daunce in an egge shell

For there are noe maydes in that well." To this some one, doubtless a Camberwellian, answered in clumsy doggrel :

"All the maides in Camberwell towne, Can not daunce in an acre of ground." What was the origin of this proverb ? ABRACADABRA. CHAPLAINS SCARFS.-Is there any, and what, authority for chaplains of religious houses, colleges, prelates, or noblemen, having their scarfs embroidered with the armorial bearings or insignia of the house or person whose chaplains they were? And if so, on what part of the scarf were they generally worked? J. SANSOM.

CHARADE.Can any of your readers solve the the principal of a Cambridge College, but I know following charade? It has been stated to be by

not with what truth:

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born about 1715, and supposed to have been buried at Chatham. As his descendants have never been able to trace any tombstone or tablet to his memory, perhaps the "Vicar of Chatham," whose name is occasionally in "N. & Q.," may be able to assist me. The armorial bearings of the family were: Or, on a cross sable, between four trefoils slipped vert, five mullets argent.

Stephen, the son of John Copland, married a daughter of Foster, of Hoo and Gravesend, and is said to have inherited Yantlet Island, which Can any of

has since been ceded to the crown.
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W. F. C.
ESSEX QUERIES.-" A seam of corn, 8 bushels";
"a clove of cheese and butter, 8 pounds; of wool,
7 pounds-Essex" (Bailey.) Are these weights
R. S.
and measures still in use in this county?
FRENCH COIN. - Can any of your correspon-
dents enlighten me as to the nature and value
of a small coin, which I have seen at Catesby
Abbey in Northamptonshire? The remains of
the old abbey are being pulled down by order of
the present proprietor, and several coins have been
found by the workmen, but none of much value.
They are chiefly of the reigns of William III.,
George I., and George II.; most of them are half-
pence, and a few sixpences. There is also a shil-
ling of Charles I. The coin about which I wish
for information is about the size of a sixpence. I
believe the following to be a correct description:
On the obverse, the head and bust of a female,
not very well preserved, but I should think an
allegorical personage, with motto "Pulchra vir-
tutis imago"; below the bust is a small "6." On
the reverse, the arms of France, with a small label
for difference, and surmounted by a crown. The
shield is between the first and second parts of the
date 1668, and the motto is "Deus adjutor et re-
demptor meus." Can any explanation be given of
the figure "6," and of the label in the arms, which
seem to me to show that the coin cannot be an
ordinary French piece?
MERTONENSIS.
SENESCHALS OF GASCONY.-Where can I find a
list of the persons who held the office of Seneschal
of Gascony, during the time when that province
was annexed to the crown of England? MEMOR.
MATILDA, LADY DE MANLEY.In a note ap-
pended to the will of this lady in Testamenta Ebo-
racensia, vol. ii. p. 66., is the following state-

ment:

"Daughter of Ralph, 1st Earl of Westmoreland, and widow of Peter de Manley the 8th. After his death she is said to have remarried Sir Francis Goddard, and to have had by him a daughter Anne, who became the wife of Sir Brian Stapleton."

What is the authority for this second marriage? The generally received pedigrees make Sir Brian marry the daughter and heiress of Sir John Goddard. A pedigree quoted in Poulson's Holderness,

vol. ii. p. 326., states that Constance (de Sutton), widow of Peter the 6th, married Sir John Goddard, High Sheriff of Yorkshire in 1389, and had by him a son, John, who was twenty-four years of age 3 Hen. V. I should be glad if any reader of "N. & Q." could give the true account of this alliance. C.

NAVY LIST. What is the date of the earliest ?

Pocock, the Historian of Gravesend, told me that
he originated "the Navy Lists." Pocock was a
printer in Gravesend, some three doors from the
Prince of Orange, on the west side of the High
Street.
ALFRED JOHN DUNKIN.

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"A farmer near Alnwick having ploughed over an ancient encampment, recently noticed several heads of strange-looking oats among his crop. Some of them were unusually tall and strong, with long branching stemlets, the onion. Mr. Binks collected no less than seventy-five while others had globular heads resembling the seed of varieties never seen in the district before. The place, as it has been conjectured, has been a cavalry camp, and the oats, which were, perhaps, ripened under other skies, after lying covered with the débris of the camps for probably 1500 years, will again shoot into cereal beauty, and may add one or more permanent varieties to the stock of the English farmer.". Stamford Mercury, May 31.

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IDENTIFICATION OF PORTRAITS. Prefixed to the several volumes of A Collection of the Farewell Sermons of Divers London and Country Ministers in three volumes (containing more than any yet published), London, printed, 1663, are certain portraits which I am anxious to identify and appropriate. In the first volume there are twelve Sermons, viz., those of Calamy, Manton, Caryl, Case, Jenkins, Baxter, Jacomb, Bates, Watson, Lye, Mede, and "Funeral Sermon" of Ash, by Calamy. Prefixed are twelve portraits. Taking them in order, No. 6. is certainly Baxter; but Ï cannot assign the others to the successive names. In the second volume there are nine Sermons, and an Appendix of Prayers. To this is prefixed a page of a "minister preaching to an audience, having their shovel hats on," and other six portraits. Among these must be Drs. Seaman, Venning, Thomas Brookes, Collins, Newcomen, Beerman, and Nalton or Horton. I am specially wishful to identify the one intended for Thomas Brookes, author of Apples of Gold, and numerous other well-known books. I believe no other portrait of Brookes is known. In the third volume there are seven sermons, and an Appendix of Sermons by Joseph Cooper, Prefixed is a page of six portraits, and a singular vignette beneath. These six in

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clude Cradicot, Bull, Sledger, Lamb, Slater, Gaspine, and, it is believed, Watson in the vignette. I shall be much obliged if any correspondent will ai me in the identification of more or fewer of tse portraits, and very especially of Brookes. one volume quarto Collections," also of 3, has a page of portraits prefixed; but they are so small a scale as to be worthless for identifition. Does any reader know of any contemporary MS. marked copy of the above three-volumed "Collection? Answers through "N. & Q." or privately shall be much esteemed by

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VARLEY'S ELEMENTARY TREATISES. -I remember, some five and thirty years ago or upwards, two small publications for the use of beginners in drawing, Varley's Sheet of Perspective, and Varley's Sheet of Light and Shade. The first of these, as far as I can rely on my recollection, was an admirable little work. I have of late years had occasion to examine other elementary treatises on perspective, and I never found one that seemed to me so well adapted to the use of the student. The other would at the present day have an interest of a very different kind. At the time when it was written, the Theory of Light and Shade was reduced to a conventional system. Modern artists have rebelled against this conventional system, and I think I may say they have overturned it. Varley's little work contains a concise view of the system which reigned with undisputed sway in the early part of the present century, and it would thus be exceedingly useful as a commentary on the works of the artists of that time.

Are these two little publications now to be had? P. S. C. VEITCH. In a work lately published (Edmonston & Douglas, Edinburgh, 1860), Concerning Scottish Surnames, the author, I think, should give his reasons for supposing that the name Veitch is derived from the Norman De Vesci. Am I not more correct in supposing the name to be of comparatively recent origin, and that it comes from "vache," a cow: the arms of Veitch bearing cows' heads? I do not remember having noticed the name of Veitch in any very old Scottish records. There were many persons of the name located about Leith, which used to have (and I dare say still has) a considerable trade with northern France and Holland.

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of sundry verses and devices-tokens of love or friendship—which, although generally printed on satin, or more frequently worked with the needle, were always designated watch-papers. I have recovered two of these productions. The lines of the first are so regulated as to be printed in a circle without a break:

"Onward-
Perpetually moving-
These faithful hands are proving
How soft the hours steal by:
This monitory pulse-like beating,
Is oftentimes methinks repeating,
'Swift, swift, the hours do fly!
Ready, be ready! perhaps before
These hands have made
One revolution more,
Life's spring is snapt,-
You die!" "

"Could but our tempers move like this machine,
Not urged by passion, nor delayed by spleen;
But true to Nature's regulating power,
By virtuous acts distinguish every hour;
Then health and joy would follow as they ought,
The laws of motion and the laws of thought:
On earth would pass the pleasant moments o'er
To rest in Heaven when time shall be no more! "
Is the author of either of these known?

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[Dugdale is correct. Henry Rands, born at Holbeach, Lincolnshire, entered the Benedictine order, and became a monk of Croyland; whereupon, according to the prevalent usage, he assumed the name of Holbeach. He became Dean of Worcester, 24 Jan. 1541-2; Bishop of Rochester, 3 May, 1544; translated to Lincoln in 1547; and died on 6 Aug. 1551, at Nettlesham, Lincolnshire. Vide Cooper's Athena Cantabrigienses, i. 106., and Willis's Survey of Cathedrals, iii. 63.]

CORNISH BALLADS, ETC. — I have read in an Itinerary of Cornwall, a fine ballad on the legend of the "Bells of Bottreux;" and a fragment of another, entitled "The Death of Siward," by the

[ Printed in our 1st S. viii. 316. — ED.]

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Again, his son did not die a "Captain in H. M. 2nd Life-Guards," but in the obituaries of 1806 he was styled "late a Captain in the HorseGuards." (By-the-way, is there not here a variation in the particular regiment ?) He had then no more right to be so styled on his monument than his father had to be styled "Lord Mayor." This the family felt and knew at the time, and acted accordingly. The insertion in his epitaph is, therefore, as little justifiable as the obliteration.

has proved himself unable to write English, and ment? He died an Alderman, and that designaignorant of some of the simplest rules of composition was correctly given him in his epitaph: the tion. There is, however, one observation in MR. correct description is now removed. GYLL's reply which, as a lawyer, I cannot allow Gill, and he is turned into a Gyll! to pass without notice. MR. GYLL informs us that, in 1844, "permission was obtained by sign manual" to alter the spelling of his patronymic, and seems to consider this a reason for making "a correspondent change on the monuments. Does MR. GYLL really believe that a royal licence obtained in 1844 can possibly justify altering the spelling of the name of a person who died in 1798? I conclude he does, as a little lower down he calls Alderman Gill "Mr. Gyll," and would probably on the same principle contend that, had the worthy alderman accepted the proffered baronetcy, all his ancestors would, ipso facto, become baronets! I believe China is the only country where this practice obtains. It is, perhaps, superfluous to add that a royal licence for a change of name only affects those named therein and their descendants. I will not occupy more of your valuable space than to add that I fully concur in the remarks made by A STATIONER and by the Editor of "N. & Q.," as do all to whom I have spoken on the subject, and in conclusion would beg to remind MR. GORDON GYLL that Alderman Gill was himself a "busy citizen," a "tradesman," and "STATIONER." J. ALEXANDER, LL.D.

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MR. GORDON GYLL has received with such bitterness my observations upon the remodelling of the Epitaphs in Wyrardisbury Church, that I presume he takes upon himself the responsibility of the whole affair. The right of a STATIONER, or any other citizen, to take public notice of such doings, has been justly vindicated in the Editor's note: still, I do not doubt that a few words in reply will be allowed to the "miserable citizen critic," who has presumed to suggest that "a county family" ought to be proud of civic honours," or rather to retain any sense of gratitude to that ancestor who made them what they are.

I would first beg permission to ask: Are the Gylls really a county family? And when did they become so? Has any member of the house ever filled the office of Knight of the shire, or even that of sheriff, for the county of Buckingham? If not, by what other test are we to fix the stauding of any new county family?

On the other hand, as to citizenship: If Mr. Alderman Gill, whom his grandson chooses to style "Mr. Gyll," really "refused to be created a Baronet in 1789," why was that honour offered him? Was it not because he was then serving the office of Lord Mayor of the City of London, in the due course of his career as an Alderman? Is it then either personally or historically just, to obliterate his title as Alderman from his monu

When his father, the Alderman, died in 1798, there was no idea of parading him as a country gentleman. His elevation to "county family" dignity, like the name of Gyll, is entirely a posthumous honour. He died plain Mr. Alderman Gill-not even a Baronet or "" City Knight"but with the reputation of one who, in civic phrase, had made himself "very warm," and who departed this life in the comfortable official residence of a substantial civic office:

"March 26. At the Treasurer's House at Christ's Hospital, aged 78, William Gill, Esq., many years an eminent wholesale stationer in Abchurch Lane, under the firm of Wright, Gill, and Dalton. He was several years one of the common council of the ward of Walbrook, whence he was elected alderman in 1781. He served the office of Sheriff the same year, and that of Lord Mayor in 1788-9, and was elected Treasurer of Christ's Hospital 1784 or 85. He was a respectable tradesman, and has died immensely rich.". Gentleman's Magazine, lxviii. 264.

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And so his worthy brother-in-law, Mr. Alderman Wright, "20 years alderman of Candlewick ward, and 50 years in partnership with the late Alderman Gill," he did not seek the aristocratic neighbourhood of Windsor Castle, but was content with a suburban villa at Dulwich, where, "after taking a walk in his grounds," he died suddenly of an epileptic fit. On this occasion it is added:—

"Alderman Gill is stated to have amassed the sum of

300,000%.; and the fortune of Alderman Wright is supposed to be equal, if not to a greater amount. They commenced business together, as stationers, on London Bridge, retained the most respectable characters, and were remarkable for great application and frugality."Ibid. p. 359.

Now, is it not, I may ask, a matter much to be lamented that ancestry whose "respectability" is so repeatedly vouched for, should be repudiated by a descendant no further distant than a grandson? Let me assure MR. GORDON GYLL that the Stationers of London have a more grateful recollection of their quondam brothers and benefactors: for benefactors they both were, though to a very unequal extent. From Alderman Wright the Stationers received 2000l. 4 per cents.; from Alderman Gill 30s. a-year, to be added to Cator's dinner. However, their portraits are still to be

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