names), Assistant Principal (Private Secre- Lambert with having overworked Chatterton. tary to the Secretary), Confidential and This charge has not been brought before Chief Clerk, Assistant Chief Clerk. against Lambert even by the most ardent While the Committee of Imperial Defence | defenders of Chatterton. is provided with: Secretary, Principal Assistant Secretary, Assistant Secretaries (three names), Principal, Confidential and Chief Clerk, Assistant Chief Clerk.

Q. V.

G. W. WRIGHT.

'FRANKENSTEIN.'-I should be glad to be informed of the earliest recorded instance

The noun Principal does not seem to occur of the confusion between the protagonists in elsewhere in the list. Mrs. Shelley's story 'Frankenstein,' in general literature or journalism. In journalism at THACKERAY: "THE NEWCOMES.'-In least three instances have occurred in the vol. i., chap. ix., of 'The Newcomes,' past few months of references to the creation Thackeray speaks of the Rev. Charles of a "Frankenstein," meaning of course the Honeyman's "luxurious sofa from Oxford, monster which Frankenstein brought into presented to him by young Cibber. Wright existence. of Christchurch.' In later editions, in place of "young Cibber Wright," we find "young Downy." I shall be obliged to any one who will explain why Thackeray made this change of name.

Boston, Mass.

CHARLES E. STRATTON.

BARLOW FAMILY.-At 9 S. viii. 144, I asked for particulars of the Rev. F. Barlow, described as "Vicar of Burton "

on the

It would be interesting to know if there is any satisfactory explanation of the extraordinary prevalence of this curious error, which constitutes a problem with few parallels in literature. H. J. AYLIFFE. 2 New Steine, Brighton.

Replies.

title-page of his 'Complete English Peerage,' A NOTE ON SAMUEL PEPYS'S DIARY. 1772, &c., but nothing definite was elicited. At 12 S. i. 469 is mention of a Descendants'

Dinner of the Barlow family, held in London in December 1906, and it may now be possible to renew the former query with better chance of success. My principal object is to identify the “Burton of which the Rev. F. Barlow was vicar at the period indicated.

W. B. H.

(12 S. vii. 507.)

I AM particularly interested in SIR CHARLES TOMES's note, as I have for some time past been endeavouring to trace the exact relationship of Nan Pepys of Worcester with the Diarist, in connexion with my forthcoming book on Pepys and his family.

The only information I have been able to obtain in relation to any Anne Pepys of Worcester is the following:

In Water's 'Genealogist's Gleanings,' there is a reference to the will, dated Apr. 5, 1658, and proved on Oct. 2 following, of John Danvers of Upton, in the parish of Ratley, Warwickshire, Esq., whereby he bequeathed a legacy of 100l. to Anne Pepes, wife of John Pepes of Littleton in the co. of Worcester.

I searched at Somerset House for the will of John Pepes of Worcester, but found none. In the Administration Book now at Somerset House, however, I found that on May 31, 1660, Letters of Administration to the estate of Anne Pepys alias Peakes, late of Littleton, Worcester, were granted by the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, to her husband John Pepys alias Peakes. This proves that this Anne died intestate and not leaving a will as Dr. Wheatley conjectured.

I am inclined to think that John Pepys substantive "tent" given by the 'N.E.D." alias Peakes, married a Pepys and that he is "the silken web of a tent-caterpillar," afterwards changed his surname to his and on the next page a tent-caterpillar is wife's maiden name of Pepys. defined as "the gregarious larva of a North American bombycid moth, Clisiocampa, which spins a tent-like web."

important junction where dinner was served to hungry through-travellers. The dinner at York in the pleasant refreshment-room hung round with engravings," is mentioned in Mr. Verdant Green Married and Done for,' and on the Irish line mentioned dinner used to be served about 5 p.m. at Limerick Junction, where two rather slow trains leaving Dublin and Cork, at 1 p.m. and 2.45 p.m. met and passed each other. Those of your readers who know this station, will recall its rather whimsical design-which compels trains approaching from four different directions to run past their platforms, before they can reach their proper stopping-places, by backing into them.

M. G. L.

The railway policemen at Shrewsbury Station (L. & N.W. and G.W.R. Joint) wore the tall hat a very few years ago, and may do so even now, but I am not sure.

HERBERT SOUTHAM.

LINES ON NEBUCHADNEZZAR (12 S. vii. 351, 437, 439.)-The authoritative note of the Provost of Queen's College, Oxford, at the second reference, makes it probable that the poem about Nebuchadnezzar which was the subject of T. S. O.'s inquiry was a bundle of fragments and not one connected poem. The story there mentioned that a similarity of names caused some unsuccessful sets of verses, intended for the Newdigate competition of 1852 on Belshazzar's Feast,' to fall into the hands of an undergraduate instead of a judge of the prize, may be dismissed with a smile, and all that can now be done is to record such short fragments as are remembered, out of a considerable number thrown off by some clever writer or writers in the summer term of 1852.

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I think I have now nearly exhausted the field of theological pabulum on which the young Nebuchadnezzas of Bosphorus [Oxford] were put to graze in my day, nor do I know that I should be inclined to pass upon it a much more favourable verdict than that of the Assyrian potentate. Good it most cer-tainly was not, and, however wholesome in the abstract, it did not agree with me."

It will be observed that Mr. Geldart is mistaken about the quotation, being from a Poem on a Sacred Subject,' which the context shows to have been on the writer's mind; whereas the Newdigate,' a nontheological poem, was the real occasion of the Nebuchadnezzar fragments.

The second reference is in the Oxford Undergraduate's Journal for Nov. 20, 1867 p. 205, where the following passage occurs, as from a 'Rejected Poem for the Newdigate Prize ':

While at these words the wise men stood appalled
Some one suggested Daniel should be called.
Daniel was called, and just remarked in passing,
Oh! Mene, Mene, Tekel and Upharsin."

Perhaps this is all that we shall ever FAMA. recover of the lines inquired for.

BEAUCLERC (12 S. vii. 391, 437).—In September last The Times printed several letters about the early handwriting of the Kings of England. The correspondence was closed by a letter in the issue for Sept. 25, in which I quoted the following decisive statement by Mr. W. J. Hardy :

"Prior to the reign of Edward III. 'we have no evidence of any member of the Royal Family being. able to write his or her name."

The mark was written in in a space left by the scribe, who had previously written the name to be represented by the mark. The first actual name signature of a King of England is believed to be that of Richard II.

in 1386.

Oxford.

FAMA.

DENNY, DE DEENE AND WINDSOR FAMI

As T. S. O. (how thin the disguise !) parthularly asks for definite references, perhaps I may be allowed to add the only printed LIES (10 S. xii. 424; 11 S. ii. 153, 274; references which I know to the poem. vi. 418; 12 S. vii. 247, 358).-One feels One is an extract from A Son of Belial: great diffidence in venturing to dissent from Nitram DR. ROUND. But apart from any assumpAutobiographical Sketches, by Tradley (London, 1882, 8vo: the author tions connected with the fesse dancettee Was Edmund Martin Geldart, resident at coat or otherwise, there would seem to be Balliol, 1863-8) :— the indisputable evidence of fact that the surnames Denny and Dene, &c., did run into one another in the days when orthography was in a very fluid state. The following examples, from different periods, will show what is meant.

P. 187. I was never favoured with a sight of the of these productions [the English Poem on a acred subject, a triennial prize first competed for in 1831, and often not printed], but a couplet was oted in my time as taken from a poem on Nebuchadnezzar, wherein of that monarch it is told, that what time he ate grass like an ox

He murmured as he chewed the unwonted food,
It may be wholesome, but it is not good.

Robert "Dany," also called "Dene " and "Dan (Subsidy Lists, Chancery ProDany," ceedings, &c.) succeeded William

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probably his father, in the Manor of Horsted ST. LEONARD'S "PRIORY," HANTS (12 S.

Parva. Of the same family was Agnes, wife of John "Daney, " also called "de Dene" and "atte Dene (Subsidy Lists and Patent Rolls). "Dyn" is another variation in the case of this family, in the same period, namely circa 1300 to 1430.

In the Inq. p.m. of Robert Dynne of Heydon, Norfolk, 1499, one of his trustees is called sometimes William "Deen," and sometimes "Denne.' This may have been the father of Baron Sir Edmond Denny (called "Deen in a document of 1500), and identical with William "Denny,' "Denne" or "Dene," of London, a legal personage of the fifteenth century.

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The surname of Henry, Archbishop of Canterbury, 1501-3, appears as "Deen,' "Dene,' "Deane,' 'Deany," "Deney and "Denny." Similar variations occur in the case of the surname of Sir John Deane of Great Maplestead, who died in 1625. The conclusion which I have drawn from such evidence as the above is supported by the very considerable authority of Mr. Walter Rye, who wrote as follows in an article on Old Norfolk Families,' some years ago :—

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There were men of the name of Denny in the .county e.g....... ..in 1499, and in forms of Dene and Deney it occurs in Norwich much earlier still."

During many years of research I have never come across any evidence that there was ever a family connected with Denny, Cambs, which took its surname from that place. Even if such evidence were forthcoming, it would not necessarily prove that every family named Denny derived its surname from that or any other place.

H. L. L. D.

vii. 90).-What authority is there for calling
this a Priory? I know of no references to
it as such, and from the existing remains it
would appear to have been merely a large
farm belonging to the monks of Beaulieu
Abbey to which it belonged.
O. G. S. CRAWFORD.

LONDON POSTMARKS (12 S. vii. 290, 355; viii. 18).—The late John G. Hendy's Postmarks of the British Isles 1840 to 1876' was issued as a serial supplement to 'Gibbons' Stamp Weekly' some 12 or more years ago, and was afterwards published in volume form by Stanley Gibbons, Ltd., 391 Strand, W.C.2, with 842 illustrations, price in paper GEO. HARDWICK. 38. and in cloth 48.

8 Hallswelle Road, N.W.11.

NOTES ON THE EARLY DE REDVERS (12 S. vii. 445; viii. 15).—Richard de Redvers was not son of Baldwin "de Brionne." I do not know who his father was.

Baldwin the Sheriff, de Excestre, was father of three sons, the youngest of them, Richard fil. Baldwini, dying without issue on June 25, 1137. Nor did the family of de Redvers hold the barony of Okehampton, which Baldwin the Sheriff held in 1086, his son and heir, William, in 1090, the latter's brother and heir, Richard, in 1129. In 1166, Matilda d'Avranches, heir of Baldwin the Sheriff, and wife of Robert, the younger natural son of Henry I, was tenant of it. See V. C. H. Devon, I, 555 and seq. L. GRIFFITH.

REPRESENTATIVE COUNTY LIBRARIES PUBLIC AND PRIVATE (12 S. viii. 8).-A very valuable section of York Minster Library consists of Yorkshire books, MSS. prints, &c., collected and left to it, by Mr. Edward Kailstone, F.S.A. of Walton Hall near Walsfield. To this treasure, something HORSELEPERD (12 S. v. 320).—My query like a thousand kindred works have been as to the meaning of this word has now been added either by gift or purchase. There answered by the Earl of Kerry in a letter are some pleasant paragraphs about Mr. which appeared in The Wiltshire Gazette Kailstone in Chancellor Raine's preface to (Devizes) for Sept. 30, 1920. This letter,A Catalogue of the Printed Books in the the last of a number on the same subject most of which appeared in The Gazette during the early part of 1920, is quoted and summarized in The Wiltshire Magazine, the organ of the Wiltshire Archæological Society, vol. xli. (December, 1920), pp. 212, 213.

O. G. S. CRAWFORD,

Hon. Sec., Congress of Archæological
Societies.

Library of the Dean and Chapter of York.' I should imagine that almost every county has a store such as that which Mr. RowE desiderates; but every town should try to keep together anything that throws a light on its own history. The "shire of broad acres has not done badly, as your correspondent shows and, inasmuch as he did not mention the Kailstone garnering, it

is not unlikely that there may be more
caches, than he is aware of even in Yorkshire,
for the benefit of posterity-to say nothing
of hoards elsewhere.
ST. SWITHIN.

Surely it is now a matter of general knowledge that every Public Library makes a special feature of collecting the literature County and the larger towns possess (as in that under my care) very large local libraries. Apart from this, the information has already been printed in the Libraries, Museums, and Art Galleries Year-Book' for 1914 and

of its own district and also that those in

the Literary Year-Book for 1913, and if these are not accessible, a card to any Librarian always secures full information as to the extent of his own collection.

The question of recording private collections is another matter, and I doubt if it would be welcomed generally. My own experience suggests that most correspondents are not interested so much in local history and topography as in genealogy, and too frequently they ask for searches to be made for references to their forbears which private owners would hardly undertake, and in my opinion should not be expected of custodians of public collections. I have found that the suggestion of a fee to be contributed towards the funds of the library in return for such services ends the correspondence. PUBLIC LIBRARIAN.

Bateman Brown, J.P., was born at the village of Houghton, Hunts, Apr. 9, 1823, the year of a great flood there. In 1896 he bought Bridge House, Huntingdon, and died there May 9, 1909, aged 86, and was buried at Houghton. His wife, Mrs. Susannah Brown died at Bridge House May 7, 1913, aged 88, and was also buried at Houghton. 'Reminiscences of Bateman Brown, J.P.,' was published at Peterborough, 1905.

"HUN " (12 S. vii. 330, 375, 438, 492).— "The Rowers,' by Mr. Rudyard Kipling, mentioned by MR. LEFFMANN at the last reference was published in The Times of Dec. 22, 1902 (see 12 S. iv. 25, s.v., Germans as Huns "). The poem has been republished in Rudyard Kipling's Verse,' 1919, vol. ii. p. 57, where it is dated 1902. "(When Germany proposed that England should help her in a naval demonstration to collect debts from Venezuela)."

ROBERT PIERPOINT.

THE BRITISH IN CORSICA (12 S. viii. 10).— A reference to Fortescue's History of the British Army' would probably give the information required. In the occupation of 1794 Sir David Dundas had the command, and the 18th Foot (Royal Irish) was at least one of the regiments engaged. In the affair of 1814 the Pembroke, and possibly 'L'Aigle' also took part ; there was a Brigade of Infantry engaged as well. The French hoisted the Bourbon flag on the approach of the English and a treaty was effected under which the French were placed under the protection of the English and the forts of Ajaccio, Calvi and Bonifacio were surrendered.

Should Mr. Lewis wish for a more detailed account of the 1814 affair, I shall be glad to let him have a copy of some private papers I have.

Rochester.

F. M. M.

Bateman Brown was the son of Potto and
Mary Brown. Potto Brown was born at
Houghton, July 16, 1797, and died Apr. 12,
1871. A biography was published by Mr.
Albert Goodman called 'Potto Brown: the
Village Philanthropist,' 1878. I can remem- (12 S. vii. 507). Some of these sayings

er them all very well.

Cirencester.

HERBERT E. NORRIS.

A FEW WARWICKSHIRE FOLK SAYINGS

are not confined to Warwickshire. My mother, a Leicestershire woman (born near Melton Mowbray), would often speak