A POUND FOR PRISONERS (11 S. xi. 471)." Pound. A prison. Pounded; imprisoned." See A Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue' (by Francis Grose), third edit., 1796.Lob's Pound. A prison." Ibid. A note by Dr. Grey on Hudibras,' part i. canto iii. line 910, is referred to. lines concerned are:

The

Crowdero whom, in Irons bound, Thou basely threw'st into Lob's Pound. Not all the words in Grose's Dictionary' are slang. ROBERT PIERPOINT.

In Farmer and Henley's 'Slang and is Analogues' the word pound" is given as an old substantive for a prison, but no examples of its use are cited. There is an old substantive" Lob's pound," also meaning a prison, as the following examples show :1603. Dekker, Batchelor's Banquet': ran wilfully....into the perill of Lob's Pound." 1663. Butler, Hudibras,' I. iii. 909 [ut supra]. 1671. Crowne, Juliana,' I. i.: "Between 'um both he's got into Lobb's pound."

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[Note (Maidment, 1870). Jocularly, a prison cr place of confinement. This phrase is still used and applied to the prison made for a child between the feet of a grown-up person.]

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proclaims Christ is risen from the dead," a custom mentioned by ST. SWITHIN in his first communication on the subject. That this long Liturgy should be gone through three times before daylight is, to my mind, incredible. Moreover, to call any three services that end before daylight by the names of the three Roman Masses on Christmas Day, seems absurd, for the Messe de l'aurore should be so timed that the sun may rise during its celebration; whilst the Messe du jour should, of course, be later in the morning, in broad daylight.

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W. A. FROST.

was

In

there described as an angesehener Komponist und Virtuos auf der Flöte und der Oboe," and said, after studying law at Padua, to have come to England with Geminiani in 1714, to have played in the orchestra of the Opera, to have gone to Scotland in 1719 and collected folk-songs, to have returned to England in 1750 and played the fiddle in the orchestra at the Opera and at Vauxhall, and to have died in 1760. If the date of his death is correct, he could not be Jenny's father, assuming that Miss Hawkins is right when she speaks of the actress's father having a paralytic stroke at the time when his daughter was playing in Steele's Funeral,' her first appearance on the stage. But Miss Hawkins is not infallible. EDWARD BENSLY.

"SACRAMENTUM (11 S. xi. 430).-The formula for this oath has been found inscribed on a bronze plate in Portugal. See Orelli, Inscriptiones Latinæ Selectæ,' 1828, vol. ii. No. 3665 (=C.I.L. ii. 172) :-

"Ex mei animi sententia ut ego iis inimicus ero quos C. Cæsari Germanico inimicos esse cognovero et si quis periculum ei salutique eius inferet intuleritque armis bello internecino terra marique persequi non desinam quoad pœnas ei persoluerit neque me liberos meos eius salute fuerint mihi hostes esse ducam. cariores habebo eosque qui in eum hostilis animi Si sciens fallo fefellerove tum me liberosque meos Iupiter Optimus Maximus ac Divus Augustus cæterique omnes Di immortales....em (=exsulem, or exnisque omnibus faxint!”

MISS BARSANTI (MRS. RICHARD DALY) (11 S. xi. 452, 498).-Jenny Barsanti is one of the most engaging appearances in Fanny Burney's Diary." Diary. She was a favourite pupil of Dr. Burney, and made her first appearance in public at Oxford on 22 June, 1769, as the principal singer in the anthem performed as his exercise for the degree of Doctor in Music. On this occasion she " terrified to death, and her mother, who was among the audience, was so much affected that she fainted away. We are relieved to hear that Jenny came off with flying colours and met with great applause.' 1771, having entirely lost her voice, she wished to go on the stage. Dr. Burney asked Samuel Crisp to hear her spout,' and she herself with Miss Burney and a friend acted some scenes at Chesington from torrem, or expertem) patria incolumitate fortuCibber's Careless Husband.' Of this we have a charming account in the 'Diary.' Fanny was present at Miss Barsanti's first appearance at Covent Garden on 21 Sept., 1772, and at her benefit on 10 May of the In October she sees her as Charlotte Rusport in Cumberland's West Indian,' and on 11 June, 1777, as Portia at the Haymarket (see Mrs. A. R. Ellis's note in the Diary'). Miss Burney calls her friend's first husband "Lister in a letter written to Susan Burney in June, 1779, very shortly after his death. In a note to the 'Diary' for June, 1769, Mrs. Ellis states,

next year.

on

the authority of Lætitia Hawkins's 'Reminiscences,' that Miss Barsanti

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was the daughter of a little old Lucchese,' a humble musician, and of a Scotch woman, who, in later days, when her daughter Jenny acted in Dublin, was known by the Irish as the big

woman.'

EDWARD BENSLY.

EPIGRAM ON THOMAS HEARNE (11 S. xi. 454).-Osborne's Catalogue of the Library of Thomas Hearne and of another Gentleman of Note" for the sale on 16 Feb., 1735/6, bears on the title-page a small portrait of Hearne, with this couplet underneath :

Pox on't, quoth Time to Thomas Hearne,
Whatever I forget You learn.

The first line, it will be seen, differs slightly
from the version quoted by XYLOGRAPHER.
See vol. iii. p. 198 of Dr. Bliss's Reliquiæ
Hearnianæ,' and p. 176 of W. Y. Fletcher's
English Book Collectors.'

EDWARD BENSLY. HERALDIC QUERY: BOTELER ARMS (11 S. xi. 399, 496). If P. M. will consult Burke's General Armory' under the surname Butler," he will What is the connexion between this find that Theobald Walter, Chief Butler humble musician and the Francesco of Ireland (temp. Henry II.), who estabBarsanti from Lucca (c. 1690-1760) of lished in that kingdom the family of whom there is a brief notice in Meyer's Butler, from which so many peerages have • Conversations - Lexicon' (1844)? He is sprung, bore for arms Quarterly, 1 and 4,

and amusements appertaining to this day. It has been described as a fierce denunciation of the Roman branch of the Church Catholic in its period."

Or, a chief indented az.; 2 and 3, Gu., three covered cups or, which correspond to four of the quarterings on the shield of arms he is anxious to identify. The Marquis of Ormonde quarters these arms on his shield Hone, in his Every-Day Book,' vol. i. as a descendant of Theobald Walter, viz., p. 375 (my edition is Tegg's, 1866), says that 1 for Walter and 2 for Butler. Is P. M."this grand festival of the Romish church is held correct in his blazoning of the arms impaled on the Thursday next after Trinity Sunday in by 2 and 3 on the shield he mentions, viz., which order it also stands in the Church of EngArgent, a lion passant gules (?) over two land calendar, and in the English almanacs. It crescents of the last? The nearest approach And citing Brand (supra) he adds: “This is celebrates the doctrine of transubstantiation." to them recorded by Papworth is Argent, a lion passant between three crescents gules,' the usage still." And in vol. ii. p. 348 he which are the arms of the Irish family of states that Dillon. A marriage at some time between members of the families of Butler and Dillon is highly probable, and a descendant may have possibly been owner of the shield of arms which P. M. wishes to identify.

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CROSS-CROSSLET.

CORPUS CHRISTI IN ENGLAND: POSTREFORMATION (11 S. xi. 430, 496).-Brand, in Popular Antiquities (Ellis's edition, 1813, vol. i. p. 235), cites Pennant's MS. to the effect that

"in North Wales, at Llanasaph, there is a custom of strewing green herbs and flowers at the doors of houses on Corpus Christi Eve."

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"on Corpus Christi Day, at about a quarter before one o'clock at noon, the worshipful company of have in Christ's Hospital school, and girls strewing skinners (attended by a number of boys which they herbs before them) walk in procession from their hall on Dowgate-hill to the church of St. Antholin's, in Watling Street, to hear service. This custom has been observed time out of mind.* This notice is communicated by one of the company."

to The Popish Kingdome' of Naogeorgus Both Brand and Hone refer at some length "englyshed" by Barnabe Googe, and cite many of his lines.

as

facsimile by Charles Whittingham at the This work was reprinted in black-letter Chiswick Press in 1880, and dedicated by its editor (Mr. R. C. Hope of St. Peter's Fosbroke, in his Encyclopedia of Anti-Coll., Camb.) to the founder and first quities' (1843, vol. ii. p. 656), states that this editor of our own ' N. & Q.'-the late W. J. festival was first instituted by Urban IV., and was remarkable for the performance of I still have my copy. Thoms. As a subscriber to that reissue a play which lasted eight days and treated on every subject from the Creation. The Coventry play was particularly famous. Numerous pageants were also arranged, each one of which consisted of a detached subject from the Scripture, beginning with the Creation, and ending with the Last Judgment. He says that these pageants were not abolished until the reign of James I. He also refers to Brand.

Chambers, in his well-known Book of Days' (1864, vol. i. p. 686), describes the Catholic festival, and states that the mystery or miracle plays which formed a part of the celebration

"in some districts of this island long survived the Reformation, the Protestant clergy vainly endeavouring to extinguish what was not merely religion, but amusement."

Chambers, though he gives no authority for this account, clearly derives it from Barnabe Googe's translation of Thomas Naogeorgus's "The Popish Kingdome,' written in Latin verse, printed in London in 1570, and dedicated to Queen Elizabeth, which gives, in "the fourth Booke,' fol. 53b, a striking picture of the customs

general for what MR. BUXTON wants-more I am afraid that these notes may be too monies still survive in England. In all particularly as to what customs and cereprobability, however, your correspondent will find something more to suit him what edition of the Calendar Customs and Supertime the contemplated new and enlarged stitions in Brand is issued. This is now engaging the attention of, and materials are mittee of the Folk-Lore Society, under the being collected for it by, the Brand Comcapable editorship of Miss Charlotte S.

Burne.

I may say that references to The Popish Kingdome' have occurred from time to time in N. & Q.'

In a book called

J. S. UDAL, F.S.A.

"The Psalter or Psalmes of David after the Translation of the Great Bible, pointed as it shall be said or sung in Churches. With the Morning and Evening Prayer, and certaine additions of Collects, and other the ordinary Service. Gathered out of the

*This is probably what MR. BUXTON refers to as being within his knowledge.

Booke of Common Prayer. Imprinted at London
for the Company of Stationers, 1635,"
under the heading "The foure Termes of
the yeare," I find :-

"3. Trinitie Terme beginneth the next day after Corpus Christi day, and endeth the Wednesday fortnight after."

JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.

NAPOLEON AND THE BELLEROPHON (11 S. xi. 339, 438).—In the History of the Wars of the French Revolution,' by Edward Baines, 1817, vol. ii. facing p. 477, is an engraving of Surrender of Napoleon to Capt. Maitland on board the Bellerophon,' Brook pinxst., Edwards Sculpst., Leeds, published by Edwd. Baines, Feb., 1817. There are ten figures in all. Napoleon, wearing his cocked hat, is delivering his sword to Capt. Maitland, who is uncovered.

S. G.'s reply at the second reference is most interesting, and his third flag bears in the second and third quarters the arms of Grand Master Geoffrey Caraffa, 1680-90.

The cross flory on the effigy in Rushton Church is apparently as near as the alabaster carver could get to the eight-pointed cross badge of the Order.

My old friend Sir W. H. St. John Hope, Knight of Grace of the Order of St. John, may have expressed a preference for the cross flory, but he is far too well versed in the history of the Order to question the accuracy of the use of the eight-pointed

cross.

St. John's Gate, E.C.

H. W. FINCHAM.

WILLIAM BORROWS, M.A. (11 S. xi. 471).— The monument, a monumental tablet by J. Evan Thomas, sculptor, was erected in St. Paul's Chapel, Clapham, Surrey, in memory of the Rev. William Borrows (17811852), of St. Edmund Hall, Oxford, B.A. 1812, M.A. 1815; thirty-six years minister of the Chapel.

In Christopher Kelly's Full and Circumstantial Account of the Memorable Battle of Waterloo,' &c., 1817, among the prints at the end is one of Bonaparte on board the Bellerophon off Plymouth '—no name of either painter or engraver, but name of A lithographic reproduction of it forms publisher, &c. (Thomas Kelly, Paternoster the frontispiece to Select Sermons by the Row). This print appears also in Kelly's late Rev. William Borrows, M.A.' 8vo, History of the French Revolution,' &c., London, 1852. 1818, vol. ii., facing p. 263.

The scene is, I think, the quarterdeck, or the gangway. Bonaparte (cocked hat as before) is standing close to the edge of the deck, with a telescope in his right hand ; with him are two military officers, uncovered, also a sailor at work; on the water far below are many boats containing men and women. The nearest, whose sightseers are two ladies and three men, flies the white ensign, as does, I think, a small sloop farther away.

ROBERT PIERPOINT.

THE FLAG OF THE KNIGHTS OF MALTA (11 S. xi. 359, 439, 481). MR. BLAGG's reply is another example of the way in which many persons mix badges with coats of arms. The cross on the effigy of Sir Thomas Gresham is an attempt to represent the badge of the Order, and is no evidence either for or against my statement respecting the arms and flag of the Order of St. John.

Reference to the official uses of the arms and badge of the Order furnishes the best evidence, and hundreds of examples can be found carved on the buildings of Rhodes and Malta. In England the best examples are perhaps the bosses of the vaulting of St. John's Gate, which date from its building in 1504.

DANIEL HIPWELL.

HUGH PRICE HUGHES AND BARON PLUNKET, PRIMATE OF IRELAND (11 S. xi. 453). -My attention having been drawn to the query in your pages regarding the ancestry of Mr. Hugh Price Hughes, permit me to say that the 'Life Story,' which I wrote for The Temple Magazine, had been passed in procf" by Mr. Hughes before publication, and we may assume that he found it accurate in every detail.

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(Mrs.) SARAH A. TOOLEY.

J. HILL (11 S. xi. 208, 271, 310).-There is much difficulty in deciding among the various artists of the name of Hill what work belongs to each, and your readers will do a good service to artistic biography if they will enable us to distinguish between the Hills with the same initials.

I have collected the following scraps of information from various sources :

1. J. Hill exhibited six landscapes between 1780 and 1825 at the Royal Academy (see Algernon Graves's invaluable Dictionary of Artists,' second edition, 1895). I am sorry I cannot quote a later edition, as there is not one, though there ought to be. 2. I. Hill engraved some views for the The coinage of the Order from shortly' History of Monmouthshire by David after 1300 to 1798 will also prove my Williams, published in 1796. His forename is indicated by an I or J according to the

statements.

fancy of the printer. In those days it was this estate in the year 1547 was, it seems, quite common to put I for J-in fact, it is the property and abode of a Hughe Munonly recently that a distinction has been creife. There is also Mondée or Mondaye, a made in the British Museum Library Cata-place and abbey juxta Bayeux (see Essai logue. Historique sur l'Abbaye de Mondaye, de l'Ordre de Prémontré, par le P. Godefroid Madelaine, Religieux de cette Abbaye, &c., Caen, imprimerie de F. Le Blanc Hardel, Rue Froide 2 et 4, 1874). some A. J. MONDAY.

3. John Hill, engraver, worked 1800-22 (see The Catalogue of the Art Library, Victoria and Albert Museum ').

4. J. Hill, by whom there are aquatints in the Print Room, is said to have worked "about 1805-14." Possibly this is the same as No. 3. The Print Room Catalogue is sadly deficient in accurate information, and requires thoroughly overhauling and re-editing—an onerous task not likely to be undertaken at present.

5. James Hill is better known as J. J. Hill, 1811-82 (see Bryan's Dictionary of Painters'). Christie's sold his pictures for what I think were good prices, as I see by the “Catalogue of the whole of the remaining works of that talented artist J. J. Hill, deceased, late of West Hill, Highgate," sold 3 April, 1882.

6. John Hill, engraver, emigrated to America, where he was living in 1822. See Redgrave's Dictionary of Artists,' copied by Bryan. Probably the same as No. 3. RALPH THOMAS.

MUNDAY SURNAME: DERIVATION (11 S. xi. 402, 482).—Mundy became an hereditary surname at Barnwell by Cambridge in or about the year 1274, when Ralph the father of Simon Mundi of Barnwell, and Henry Mundi of Barnwell, the son of Simon Mundi of Barnwell, were in evidence as tenants of the Priory of Barnwell (Hundred Roll of Cambridgeshire temp. Edward I.). And in the year 1307 a William Mundy and Amicia his wife sold three and a half acres of land in Cambridge to John of Cambridge for 10 marks of silver (Feet of Fines, 35 Edward I.). In the early part of the reign of Edward I. there was a Symon Moneday, a cotarius at Fairshead in Huntingdonshire, belonging to Thorney Abbey. On the Ochil Hills, in the parish of Dron, Perthshire, there are two farms named Mundy. But

In support of the suggestion of your correspondent L. V. that this surname is derived from the Old English name Mund,

I would draw attention to the fact that a Roger Mundy is in the list of those who paid the Lay Subsidy in the year 1300-1 volume xxi. p. 5). The name appears in the in Yorkshire (see York Record Society's wills proved at York as follows:-in 1597, in 1626, Munday; and in 1648–9, Monday. Mundaie; 1606, Mundye and Mundaie ; W. H. CHIPPINDALL, Col.

Kirkby Lonsdale.

: מפתח לשון הקדש .(303

JOHN UDALL (11 S. x. 89, 333; xi. 251, Of The Holy Tongve....By Iohn. Udall.... "That Is The Key Imprinted at Leyden By Francis Raphelengivs," CIO.IO.XCIII., shares with Whitney's Choise of Emblems' the distinction of being one of the two English books issued from lished a branch of his business at Leyden in the presses of the famous Plantin, who estab1583, afterwards transferring it to his son-in-law Raphelengius. A colophon in Hebrew at the end of the 'Hebrve Dictionaire' reads:

במעשה וביד יוחנן אודל בהיותו בבית המשמר

("By the work and by the hand of Johanan Udal while he was in the prison house").

It is the first Hebrew grammar in the English language. I have a very fine copy of it, also of the two issues of the Printed for C. P. Anno Dom. C1.10 CXLV."; Second Edition": (a) "Amsterdam. (b). The second Edition. Amsterdam, Printed for C. P. and are to be sold by Daniel Frere, at the Sign of the red Bull in little Britain, London. 1648." In the British Museum there is a third issue of

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The Second Edition, with the Annotations of sterdam; and are to be sold by Laurence Sadler Chri-tian Ravis Berlinas. Imprinted at Amat the Golden Lyon in Little-Brittaine, and by Gabriell Bedell at the Middle Temple Gate in Fleet-street. 1650."

The three issues vary only in the titlepages, and are in sm. 8vo, 208 pp. (incorrectly numbered 192). ISRAEL SOLOMONS.