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imprint, “ London, Printed for Nath? Brook, at “[Henco] if God had not abridged the life of man the Angel in Gresham Colledge, 1669," with the after the Flood, and decreed his age to be ordinarily no
more than seventy years, whereby women are become capitals in the title and names of the author and incapable to beare children above thirty years at most, printer in red lettering. Passing over six pages and made them all subject likewise to infinity of dis(all in capitals and italics) of an “Epistle Dedi- cases, there must either have ensued some other universal catory to the Most Sacred Majesty of Charles the destruction to have extirpated them all again, or else Second,” the heading, “An Essay Towards the Pri- they could not have had so much as room to have mitive Language" appears
. From this quaint little breathed in their numbers would have been so infinite, treatise, which reveals considerable philological re
R. E. N. search, I select, as deserving repetition in N. & Q.;' Bishopwearmouth, the following curious examples, in which the author, in introducing his linguistic theory, attempts first the Primitive Language' to any learned contri
P.S.-I shall be glad to lend the 'Essay towards to prove the existence of a densely populated world butor to or reader of ‘N. & Q.,' should it be before the Deluge :
desired. “That the world was throughly peopled before the flood, that great and universal Deluge, which God, for the sins of men, was pleased to bring upon the whole KNOWLEDGE FOR PEOPLE. - In the world, doth clearly manifest......
number of the paper called Knowledge for July 2, “For if 80 many millions of men, as...... Ninus, Zoroaster, Semiramis, and Staurobutes, led after them p. 196, there is an article on ‘English Pronunciato the field (and they left not all their Kingdomes tion, containing some extraordinary misstateempty) were born within 300 years after the Deluge : ments, which it is worth while to set right. What numbers might they consist of, that 1656 years The writer first gives us a specimen of the brought forth, preceding the same ? If, in like man- Lord's Prayer in English, which he attributes to ner, all Asia the greater, and the less, with Greece, and the Islands thereof, all Ægypt, with 'Mauritania aná Bp. Edfrid, about 700. It begins : “ Uren fader Lybia, were within the aforesaid time after the flood thic arth in heofnas," &c. The misspellings fully peopled : And if we believe Rerosus, then, not only throughout are of the most startling description ; those parts of the world, but (within 140 years after the such a wonderful form as thic for thu (i.e., thou) flood) Spain, Italy, and France were also planted; much is enough to make the dullest reader suspicious. more then may we think, that in 1656 yeares before the But what does it all mean? flood, the world was throughly replenished with people. “ From the first promise made to Abraham, unto the
The fact is that the well-known Lindisfarno departure of Israel out of Ægypt, being 430 years, after MS. in the British Museum was written out by the Apostle's account, Galat. iii. v. 17, were born of Bishop Eadfrith (not Edfrith), who was Bishop of Abraham's own body, comprehending men, women, and
This is clearly the children, saith Willet, fifteen hundred thousand. 'And Durham from 698_to 721. reason will grant, that, having the same blessing pro. MS. referred to. However, the text of the MS. as mised, as great increase should be given to the sons of written by Eadfrith happens to be not in English Adam, as the song of Noah......
at all, but wholly and solely in Latin ! " And it is absurd to think, that men during such long lives, and in such perfect health should not beget very 950, or about 970, or even (as some contend) much
At a much later date, variously given as about many children, and have frequently two and three at a birth. When in this our Age (1668) we have known a later, a Northern-English gloss was supplied above woman, the wife of one Edward Jones by name, a Water. the Latin text by a certain Aldred. The gloss to man yet living in Westminster, to have brought him St. Matthew, vi. 9, begins the Lord's Prayer with forth eight children within the compasge of two years, the words—« fader urer thu arth......in heofnas'; at the first birth two, at the second as many, and at the and this is sufficiently near to show us that uren last four. And when within this last Century from Robert Hodywood of Charing in the County of Kent and thic are mere blunders for urer and thu. Esquiro, and Mary his wife, she, that is so famous for Thus the error in chronology amounts to nearly balancing her salvation with the breaking of a glass [sic] three centuries, which is a good deal in the history lawfully proceeded 367 persons within less than the of a language. space of eighty years...... “For, supposing the women before the flood to have
The writer next gives us another specimen, been generally fruitful, as no doubt they were, and that dated by him about 900. It is difficult to guess they continued child-bearing long, of which in regard of what is meant, but the reference is probably to the the length of their lives, as little question is to be made, Mercian gloss in the Rushworth MS., which can setting aside how many children soever they might have at a birth, though in Agypt oven since the flood, it hath hardly be earlier than the latter half of the tenth been usual with them to bring forth two, three, five, and, century, though the Latin text dates from about as Trogus Pompeius saith, sometimes seven at a birth. 800. It seems not impossible, considering the encrease of Probably the information was taken from Cam. the Honywoods, but that, by ordinary means, in the den's 'Remaines'; if so, he is a very unsafe revolution of 1656 years, such numbers might be multiplied that we have cause to doubt the people wanted
guide. world, rather than the world people ; or, as Sir W.
Next we find quoted a rimed version of the Raleigh, the world could not contain them, rather than Lord's Prayer, attributed to Pope Adrian, who that they wero not spread throughout the world...... died in 1159 ; . e., about half a century before
rimes of this character appear in English for the prizes for the best essays, by women, on the works first time. This is an old fable, which ought to of Byron, Shelley, and Keats, has appeared anbe considered as exploded.
nually (for some years) in the Atheneum, has Next, leaving these specimens, the writer quotes chosen the year of Byron's centenary to make per. the well-known passage from Trevisa about the manent provision for the continuance of said English dialects. This also contains several errors, prizes. A sufficient sum was placed in the bands and we are referred to Dr. Hicks (misspelling of of trustees, and the trust deed executed on April Hickes) for the information that the author of this 19th last—the anniversary of Lord Byron's death passage is unknown. However, Dr. Hickes ex- —to secure (it is hoped) an enduring tribute to pressly assigns it to Trevisa, at p. xvii of his well- the genius of Byron, Shelley, and Keats. known 'Thesaurus.'
Geo. JULIAN HARNEY. Would it not be much better for a writer who is Cambridge, Mass., U.S. 8o imperfectly acquainted with his subject to let it alone? It is not the first time that I have called (7th S. v. 355), speaking of Siamese porcelain
LEATHER Coins.—Your correspondent H. S. attention to the fact that the English language is the sole subject which is treated of by those who the sole instance of coins being made of any
coins, remarks concerning them that they present have never properly studied it. If botany or che
substance except metal.” I think, however, that mistry were so treated it would be considered very strange ; but when the subject happens to be in the Barbary states at one time pieces of leather the English language, a want of scientific know bearing an impression of the Pentalpha (seal of ledge seems to be considered as being absolutely David) were used as coins
. I have a note some
Solomon), or the interlaced triangles (shield of meritorious. WALTER W. SKEAT.
where to this effect, but at present cannot find it. Wyon's EDITION OF THE SUMMA' OF St.
R. STEWART PATTERSON, THOMAS AQUINAS.— Now that Mr. Wyon, the
3, Farleigh Place, Cork. distinguished engraver of seals to Her Majesty,
NAMES ENDING IN "DAUGHTER."-In order not is unhappily dead, and now, as I am glad to learn, to bring myself under Miss Busk's very just rethat a brother of his has succeeded to that office, so prehension of the “game of dominoes " we someimportant to all archæologists, it may interest times play (7th S. v. 451), I offer my remarks as a students to be reminded that a great edition of St. note, and not as a reply, though they are suggested Thomas Aquinas was printed and published by a by MR. EBBLEWHITE's quotation of “LawrenceWyon. I quote from the title-page of a folio edi- daughter” on the same page. Any collector of tion, now in my own possession, of the ‘Summa odd names is aware that this class of name is exTheologica' of St. Thomas Aquinas, in one volume, ceedingly rare, and I therefore add no apology for published "Dvaci, sumptibus ac impensis Marci appending my own list of them, gathered during Wyon, Bibliop. et Typographi Jurati, sub sigoo twenty-six years' study of the Public Records:Phænicis. Anno M.DC.XXIII. Cum gratiâ et Alice Thepundersstepdoghtre, Patent Roll, privilegio." A brother of the late Mr. Wyon, the 1299. Rev. Walter Wyon, of Cambridge, is now one of Maud Gilledoghter, Close Roll, 1370. the clergy of the Anglican Society of St. John the Johanedoghtre, ib., 1377. Evangelist at Cowley St. Johd, near Oxford. The Katherine Willaumesdoghter, ib., 1405. dame Wyon is without question Flemish, and the To these may be added, being quite as unWyons came either from that part of Flanders usual :now politically incorporated in France, or from
Alice Ricardiswyf, Close Roll, 1280. that part of Flanders now a portion of the kingdom Amice la Soer le Vykere de Skarthecliue, ib. of Belgium. Probably the name Wyon is a variant 1290. of that of Guyon, rendered famous by the life and Richard the Abbotescosio, ib., 1328. writings of the pious mystical lady whose full name Agnes Patonwyf, Close Roll, 1439. was Madame de la Mothe Guyon. The inter- I have found as surnames, in all cases of men, change of w and g may be illustrated by the fol- Millecent, Rosamond, Janet, Anabille (Annalowing and other cases :- English wicket=French bella), Mildred, Arthur, Robert, Basilea, Orable guichet; Latin vespa, English wasp=French |(Arabella), Alianore, Isabelle, Clarisse. guèpe; English Walter=French Gautier; English
HERMENTRUDE. wise and its variant guise. H. DE B. H. C.C.C., Oxon.
THE RULING PASSION STRONG IN DEATH.-A
late celebrated wit, whose life had not been satisBYRON, SHELLEY, AND KEATS.-It may in- factory to himself, lay dying, when a friend at his terest the admirers of these poets—and I trust bedside asked how he felt. “I feel," he said, there are many among the readers of N. & Q.' who like a man going out in a storm with a broken admire all three-to learn that Mrs. Rose Mary umbrella.” No one can think that this was lightly Crawshay, the lady whose advertisement offering spoken.
ALFRED GATTY, D.D.
A Lady A PARISH OVERSEER. - Former num. eldest son, Thomas—who was also rector of Naunbers of 'N. & Q.' have contained notes of women ton Beauchamp, and chaplain to Lord Foleyfilling parish offices. It may be well to add the succeeded to the living. He laid the first stone of following to the number. I have taken it from the the new steeple in April, 1778, and I think died Lincoln Herald of July 15, 1831, p. 1, col. 5:- in 1782, but just at the present I cannot find the
“A lady, named Sarah Lucy Guise, residing in the precise date. Any way the father and the son parish of Horley, near Reigate, appealed to the Surrey held this living from the Lord Chancellor for the sessions last week against being appointed overseer. The period of (about) sixty-seven years. court, however, confirmed the appointment, and Mrs. traits are hanging in my hall, half length, life size, Guise must, therefore, officiate as overseer."
in robes and wig, the later portrait a fine specimen
of the crayon work of John Russell, R.A. AlHEBRIDEAN SUPERSTITION.—That superstition though their case is unusual, it is far surpassed by still lingers in the Hebrides is well known to every that of the two Brookes of Colston Bassett. student of folk-lore. One of the rewards which the
CUTHBERT BEDE. tourist reaps who wisely leaves the beaten track to sojourn among the simple folk of the outer He-information as to the position of the clergy in
THE CLERGY AND RELIGION. - Much curious brides is a considerable accession to his store of 1670 is to be found in "The Grounds and Occalegends and eerie stories. A Glasgow paper-Christian Leader-makes us
sions of the Contempt of the Clergy and Religion
Enquired into. In a Letter written to R. L.” its debtor for gathering these two current superstitions :
London, 1670. In the copy of the book from “The following prescriptions were within the last is a note in MS.:
which the following extract is made, on a fly-leaf, fortnight given by a certificated midwife who is the only practitioner in an island on the west coast of Scot- “ The Authour, supposed to be Mr. Greengworth, a land containing some hundreds of inhabitants, and minister now in Cornwall, notwithstanding what is having only an occasional visit from a medical man. If affirmed in the preface, this Letter being written to R. L. the baby is ill and not thriving, take a cat by the four Dr. Richd. Lower, Medi-D." feet, swing it round and round the infant several times, At p. 19 the author says, speaking of young clergythen throw it out of the hole in the roof for letting out the smoke; if it is a black cat, or if the house has a chimney, then throw the cat out of the window; if the
"Or, shall we trust them in some good Gentlecat dies the child will live, because the witches or mens Houses, there to perform holy Things? Withal brownies have left the child and gone into the cat. If my heart, so that they may not be called down from the cat does not die, then the child will. The other their studies to say Grace to every Health : That prescription is for older children, and is, if anything, they may have a little better wages than the Cook or simpler in form, altbough it may be a little more diffi- Butler : as also that there be a Groom in the House, cult to follow on account of the scarcity of gold among besides the Chaplain : (For sometimes into the Ten the poor people who are dependent on the services of pounds a year, they crowd the looking after a couple this midwife. Take a piece of gold and put it into a
of Geldinge :) and that he may not be sent from the dish, pour water on to the gold, then sprinkle the water Table, picking his Teeth, and sighing with his Hat under over the children that are sick, and immediately they bis arm, whilst the Knight and my Lady eat up the will begin to recover. We live in the nineteenth cen tarts and chickens: It may be also convenient, if he tury, and yet these prescriptions were given by this were suffered to speak now and then in the Parlour, woman, holding the position already stated, within the besides at Grace and Prayer time : and that my Cosen last fortnight, to a mother recovering from the birth of Abigail and he sit not too near one another at Meals : a child, examples being cited wherein the prescriptions Nor be presented together to the little Vicarage.'” had proved effectual ! "
RALPH N. James. EDWARD DAKIN.
OFFICIOUS AND OFFICIAL.-It may be well for LONG TENURE_OF A VICARAGE BY FATHER the guidance of the future student of our language AND Son.The Rev. Joshua Brooke, Vicar of to place on record in ‘N. & Q.? the following exColston Bassett, Nottingham, died April 30, 1888, tract from the diary of Lord Malmesbury :at the age of seventy-eight, having been vicar of
“Old diplomatists must know the difference between the parish —which is now in the gift of the Lord an officious and an official conversation. The first is the Chancellor-for fifty-three years. He succeeded free interchange of opinions between two ministers, and his father in the living, bis father having held it it compromises neither; the latter would do so, and for fifty years. Thus father and son were vicars would bind their Governments. I always, when at the of the parish for 103 years. This is, perhaps, which footing it was to be understood.”
Foreign Office, prefaced a conversation by saying on an unprecedented occurrence. In my father's
E. WALFORD, M.A. family, the Rev. William Bradley, D.D., was
7, Hyde Park Mansions, N.W. not only rector of Astley, Worcestershire, but on February 11, 1715, was also appointed by the St. Paul's. There has recently been great disLord Chancellor to the valuable vicarage of Chad-cussion respecting the monogram under the east desley Corbett, Worcestershire, which he held to window outside St. Paul's, and as to whether it the date of his death, January 1, 1757, when his was “C.W.," meaning Christopher Wren, or
" Are you
“W.M.," standing for William and Mary, in that multiplyen & growen alle the Yeer. I have often whose reign the rebuilding of the cathedral was
times assayed, that yif a man kepe hem with a litylle of completed. This monogram, which was encrusted the Roche, & wete hem with May Dew ofte sithes, thei with the dirt of ages, has now been cleaned,
and schullo growe everycho Yeer; and the smale wole waren
grete.”—Mandevilo's Travels' (Lumley), p. 158. there can be no doubt as to the letters being
DENHAM ROUSE. “W.M.” Moreover, the monogram is surrounded by a garter bearing the motto of the order, “Honi ANYTHINGARIANS.—This word, Dr. Murray may soit qui mal y pense,” which could not be read be interested in knowing, occurs in the first number before the cleaning process by persons standing of the Entertainer, dated November 6, 1717, pubunder the window, and the whole is surmounted lished by N. Mist, so well known in connexion by a regal crown. This, I think, sets the question with Mists Journal. The sentence runs thus, at rest, and it is, perhaps, worth a note.
“We are neither Calvinists nor Lutherans in all J. STANDISH HALY. points ; nor absolute Free-willers ; nor, which is Temple.
ten times worse, Free-thinkers, Atheists, Ang. thingariang."
W. ROBERTS. NYND.-In some parts of North Notts, and 42, Wray Crescent, Tollington Park, N. perhaps nowhere else, & curious word is used
JAPANESE FURNITURE.-- In the 'Memoirs of which sounds like nynd, the y long. The word
Wilhelmine, Margravine of Baireuth,' translated used to pervade common speech largely. It is a pronunciation of the compound nigh-hand, which, by H.R. H. Princess Christian, occurs the
following however, does not always mean near to." A few passage (p. 401), which may be interesting as reexamples :-“ Nynd yon lad was run ower” = that gards the present Japanese phase of decoration. lad was nearly run over. * Yon woman nynd yon
The residence called “The Hermitage” is described man "=the woman near that man.
as existing in 1744 :going to Retford to-day?" “Nynd I shall, nynd
“ After this comes a small room with Japanese i shan't," nynd here meaning “perhaps” or “may, | (Frederick, afterwards the Great]. It cost enormous
furniture given me (the Margravine) by my brother be." " Where does Bill live ?" Nynd us, sums of money, as it is the only specimen of its kind meaning “ near to us” or near me," as the case that has come to Europe, so, at least, my brother was might be.
Thos. RATCLIFFE. told." Worksop.
W. P. OLD SHIPS.—The following extract, taken from Journal for 1867, at an exhibition of antiquities
THE WORD "LEAL.” — In the Archæological the Whitby Gazette, may be of interest :
and works of art, described on p. 82, mention is “The sloop Lively, of Whitby, coal·laden, is ashore made of at Bacton, near Cromer, crew saved. Later news says the vessel has become a total wreck. The Lively "a brass seal, the device being three escallops, with the was built by Mr. Spence in 1786, and is therefore legend + IE SV SELE DE AMOR LELE—I am the seal of more than one hundred years old, and was the oldest leal, or true love. Exhibited by Mr. James Horsley, of Whitby-built ship afloat.....We believe she had but one Alnwick, through Mr. Tate, being one of four relics of her original planks in her, having been partially re
found near the foundation of the piers of Alnwick Abbey built once or twice.”
Bridge when it was demolished in 1820."
W. L. No presumed date is given, but perhaps it may be VOLUNTEERS 1745. According to Coleman's referred to the fifteenth or sixteenth centuries. Catalogue,' vol. xx. No. clxxxvii., 1888, he had a commission dated 1745, and signed by Thomas
Queries. Holles, Duke of Newcastle, Lord Lieutenant of the county of Middlesex, in favour of Robert Tun- We must request correspondents desiring information stall, gent., to be a lieutenant of the Company of on family matters of only private interest, to affix their Volunteers in and about the town of Brentford.
names and addresses to their queries, in order that the
answers may be addressed to them direct.
HYDE CLARKE. MANDEVILE UPON DIAMONDS.—Now that the “DIDDLE.”—In an amusing little book which I talk is turning on male sapphires, it may not be have read lately, 'Martin Toutrond ; or, the Adout of place to quote the following bit, in which ventures of a Frenchman in London,' by James the delightful Mandevile surpasses himself :
Morier, the period of which is 1831, young "The Dyamandes in Ynde......growen many to gedre, Martin, who has learnt a certain amount of Eng. on lytille, another gret. And ther ben sum of the gret- lish before coming over, is greatly puzzled by being nesse of a Bene, and süme als gret as an Haselle Note. told by some one whom he meets at a party that his And thei ben square and pointed of her owne kynde, host's family, with whom he has important reaboth aboven & benethon, withouten worchinge of mannes honde. And thei growen to gedre, male & female. And
sons for ingratiating himself, are not people likely thei ben norysscht with the Dew of Hevene. And thei to be “diddled.” He cannot rest until he gets engendren comounly, and bringen forthe smale children, back to his lodgings in order to consult his dic
tionary, where, to his great disappointment, he can. where search should be made for tracing his not find "diddle.” In Wessely's pocket. French descendants ?
W. M. Dictionary,' I find the word, with, however, a totally different meaning from that in which I
NEROT'S HOTEL.-I find many of Pitt's early have always beard it colloquially used — to cheat, letters to his mother dated from this hotel, “ King take in-pamely," Diddle, marcher d'un pas in Street," May I ask if this was King Street, St. certain, chanceler." Nugent gives both me g8 James's, or King Street, Westminster? It is quite -chanceler, duper. In Meadows’s ‘English-Italian possible that the latter is meant, since he liked to Dictionary,' 1861, the word does not occur, but in be near to the House of Commons, in order to his 'English-Spanish Dictionary,' 1865, I' find it hear the debates, long before be became a member with both our colloquial and the chanceler” of the legislature. E. WALFORD, M.A. meaning, “Diddle, v.n. vacilar; anadear;
7, Hyde Park Mansions, N.W.
; engañar.” In Jenkins's “Vest-Pocket Lexicon,'
THE TOBY.-Hakluyt mentions" a true report
a 1871, the word also occurs with both meanings.
of a worthy fight” between five ships of London Can any one point out in a standard author an example of “diddle” in the sense of to totter, to of Spain, anno 1586.
against eleven galleys and two frigates of the King
Can any of your readers reel ? JONATHAN BOUCHIER.
supply the names of the captains and owners of [Halliwell gives as the meaning, “ To dawdle."] the said ships—specially of the Toby? The others
were the Merchant Royal, the Edward Bonaven“ TURNING UP HIS EYES, LIKE A DUCK IN ture, the William and John, and the Susan. THUNDER.”-I think that this familiar saying has I ask as Rushworth states that Alderman Vassall been known to me all through my life; but-after fitted out two ships-the Samuel and Little Toby, a search through the General Index volumes of the latter commanded by his son—to resist, with 'N. & Q.'-I believe it has not been recorded in numerous others, the Spanish Armada, and I these pages. It is generally used as a canting, should like to know whether the Toby of Hakluyt's hypocritical saying; but only the other day I fight of 1586 is the same as Rushworth's Little heard it said of a distinguished ecclesiastical dig- Toby of 1588.
S. V. H. nitary, who certainly has a habit of turning his eyes up to the very roof, whether he is preaching, or SPARK OR SPARKE, DEVONSHIRE.—The underspeaking, or delivering a charge. Is the saying a signed desires detailed information as to a family more whimsical expression; or, as regards the of bankers at Exeter in the last century, named duck, bas it any foundation in natural history? I Spark or Sparke, who were Quakers. can recall the sense, though not the exact words, It is stated that on one occasior, during a trial of a passage in one of the earliest of Mr. Spur for forgery, the acting partner of this firm, being geon's many thousands of excellent sermons, which then in the witness-box, was examined as to the was that we were set an example of gratitude to signature of an impounded cheque; he asked for Providence even by birds and little ducks, who permission to inspect it, and, so soon as be redid not drink without immediately lifting up their ceived it, he thrust it into his mouth, masticated, heads to heaven to return thanks.
and swallowed it. The reason alleged for thus deCUTHBERT BEDE.
feating the ends of justice is that he was opposed [The notion of a bird lifting up its head in thanks to the penalty of capital punishment for that after drinking is far older than Mr. Spurgeon.]
offence, and so took this peremptory method of “THE TAATCHER.'-Can any of your readers tell trial of Woodfall, the printer, for publishing the
destroying the evidence. It is said that at the me where the original of Morland's picture. The Junius letter to the king," the foreman of the Thatcher' now is; and whether the scene was in the Isle of Wight? It was engraved in 1806, by Wm. jury did secrete and destroy the number of Wood
relied on as evidence ; just, also, as a paper
certain Q.C. quashed a case by drinking a bottle LINNÆUS.-His arms are divided into three of liqueur produced as evidence. VENDALE. fields, and the colour of each symbolizes one of the kingdoms of nature : the red, the animal; the
RUBENS.—Is it known where Rubens's discourses, green, the vegetable. What is the third ? (24 B., partly in Latin, Italian, and Dutch, on statues, ii. 8.)
C. A. WARD.
paintings, and comparisons of Raphael, Michael Walthamstow.
Angelo, &c., are now? A certain Mr. Maurice
Johnson, of Spalding, Lincolnshire, once produced DERRICK CARVER.—I am under the impression the manuscript at a meeting of the Society of Anthere is in existence a genealogical chart showing tiquaries. It was apparently an exact facsimile the descendants of the Derrick Carver who suffered of Rubens's travelling album. The handmartyrdom at Lewes, Sussex, in 1555. Can any writing, and even the inks, had been exactly one inform me where I can obtain a copy, or suggest copied. It had been brought from Brussels by a